"Citizen Jimserac" <Jimserac@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 26, 3:53 pm, "D. C. Sessions" <d...@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
> In message <tEJik.2810$7g.2...@fe109.usenetserver.com>, vernono wrote:
>
>
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> > "D. C. Sessions" <d...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> >news:fecrl5-ldl.ln1@news.lumbercartel.com...
> >> In message <sCwik.9666$cg....@fe085.usenetserver.com>, vernono wrote:
> >>> "D. C. Sessions" <d...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:c0eql5-1j4.ln1@news.lumbercartel.com...
> >>>> In message <hVpik.19761$ue.3...@fe089.usenetserver.com>, vernono
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> All I know and from what most Doctors seem to say is tham Chemo
> >>>>> seldom
> >>>>> works.
>
> >>>> Have a look at the survival rates for childhood leukemia
> >>>> over the last thirty years.
>
> >>> Oh, for sure.
> >>> 1. Child
> >>> 2. A systemic disease that "changes" with time. Chemo seems to mess up
> >>> the
> >>> entire sequence.
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> >> Yeah -- they don't die.
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> >>> It makes one wonder how many cancers are preceded by un- noted blood
> >>> or
> >>> nervous system anomalies that Chemo might stop.
>
> >> Wonder all you like -- but the kids aren't dying of leukemia
> >> like they used to.
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> > And hundreds of thousands are dying of other cancers, so because we seem
> > to
> > have a handle on some lukemea, forget the rest.
>
> Changing the subject, it seems.
>
> You're posting the statement "chemo seldom works."
> In a reasonable discussion, it would be up to you to post some
> sort of basis for that besides "I heard it." However, being of
> charitable inclination, I presented counterexamples.
>
> One free one is all you get.
>
> If you really want to back up, "chemo seldom works," then do
> so. I won't even hold you to a practical definition of, "works,"
> as long as it's not something silly like, "can be administered
> to end-stage fulminating metastatic cancer with multiple organ
> failures and still return the patient to full precancerous health."
> Just compare to untreated cancer of the same reasonably early
> stages.
>
> I'll even grant you pancratic cancer of the sort that killed
> Randy Pousch this week, although chemo certainly gave him time
> with his family that he wouldn't have had without it.
>
> --
> | The brighter the stupid burns, the more |
> | chance that someone will see the light. |
> +- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> -+
Well, you know my position here, chemo does indeed "work" but it ruins
the immune system of the patient. A number of patients survive this
and then are cancer free for some significant time though in many a
recurrence can happen years later.
I question if the chemo poisons really did "cure" the patient
and am investigating the Homeopathic concept that the "disease" has
not been cured at all and the cancer was but a manifestation of that
(some deeper) disease.
Re: your comments on the childhood Leukemia compared to 30 years ago -
yes, it is true, the treatments now are better and the survival rate
is much improved.
Citizen Jimserac
Whatever you do, don't bring up new hope in the chemo world or cancer cure
world. It's "changing the subject" he he he he he hee
