> In article <g6a1js$u1o$2@news.iucc.ac.il>, schultr@mail.biu.ack.il
> says...
> > In misc.health.alternative The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_Kingoff@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > : On Jul 24, 5:43?am, schu...@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) wrote:
> > :> In misc.health.alternative Carole <hub...@iimetro.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > :> : And when I say people should think for themselves and question authority,
> > :> : there are some who say they do. . .
> > :> : People fawn and grovel in front of experts and trust everything they say.
> >
> > :> Has it ever occurred to you that a person might be able to think for himself
> > :> and come to the conclusion that the experts are correct? Has it ever
> > :> occurred to you that if you know nothing about a subject, the odds that
> > :> thinking for yourself is going to lead you to any conclusion that is even
> > :> close to be correct are very, very, very small?
> >
> > : The very same points have been made to you regarding acupuncture.
> >
> > I have come to the conclusions that the experts -- i.e. those who know how
> > to design an experiment properly and to report its results accurately -- are
> > correct, and that there is no evidence for the efficacy of acupuncture
> > beyond a placebo effect.
> >
>
> Acupuncture helped my dog tremendously, making him able to move much
> better right away after the first treatment, and regain the weight he
> had lost, all the while dying of cancer. When he died, he was 72 pounds.
> He had dropped to 61 before starting the treatments. He had great
> difficulty turning around, and had to do it like a semi trying to back
> up into a tight space. On the way home from the first treatment, he got
> up and made a 360 turn, and plopped back down. He hated the first couple
> of treatments, but towards the end, was thrilled to get them. He would
> fall asleep almost as soon as the first needle went in.
>
> It didn't save him, but it did make his last months a lot more
> comfortable. The only negative was the cost involved.
>
> I don't think the old guy knew what "placebo" meant.
>
flies in the face of your usual "skepticism" (brainwashing).