Subject: Re: Law Against Obesity?
Author: Zombywoof
Date: 27 Jul
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:06:10 +0000 (UTC), ferrous@ironcity.com wrote:

>"As I said, no other animal willingly/knowingly engages in self
>destructive behavior (eat unnatural cooked food known to have natural &
>synthetic carcinogens, etc)"
>
>Should we assume you refer primarily to meat? If we are to use nature to
>instruct us, we should eat meat raw or at least let age some first to be
>consistent.
>
>Boiling and steaming and microwaving avoids the cancer producing
>substances of intensively browned meat.
>
>No other animal uses fire so the point is moot if we compare ourselves.
>Animals will not hesitate to eat cooked meat when offered.
>
Most animals will not hesitate to eat just about anything if they are
hungry enough. Hell they don't even follow the "If it smells good eat
it" methodology. I've got a dog that will pretty much eat anything
that it sees me eating and I hand it to him. Granted it is more of a
gulp/swallow then eating, but eat it he does.

To me what this goes to show is what "Domestication" does to Animals.
Society is what Domesticated the Human Animal. For example monogamy
isn't a natural state to most male animals, but our Society has sort
of inflicted/enforced that on us Human One's. Now I am not making a
case for society and/or any of its rules, but the point is that when
one acts outside one's own nature, and studies on animals are done
without them being in their natural habitat doing what it is they
normally do, the science can be FUBARed from the beginning.

Omnivores (from Latin: omne all, everything; vorare to devour) are
species that eat both plants and animals as their primary food source.
They are opportunistic, general feeders not specifically adapted to
eat and digest either meat or plant material exclusively. Pigs are one
well-known example of an omnivore. Crows are another example of an
omnivore that many people see every day. Humans are omnivores as well.
Now seeing that humans also have a pretty good sense of taste, are
driven from pleasure in most things, and have an extremely wide
variety of easily obtainable food stuffs it is not surprising that we
will normally eat those things that "Taste Good". Let's face it the
large majority of meat tastes better cooked then it does raw. We've
got the whole "Opposable Thumb Thing" going on and can invented & use
the tools to cook meat, hence we do.
"Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
Moderation is for monks."
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