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trisha wrote:
> On Jul 24, 8:45 pm, "eBob.com" <faken...@totallybogus.com> wrote:
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>>So ... any action which results from a psychiatric disorder should not be
>>considered criminal? How about pedophilia?
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>
> I didn't say that. I'm saying find out why before you go tying laws
> to the disorder. If you read what I said, a great number of the
> people who are overweight are that way because they have been molested
> or abused. Deal with the root of the problem instead of the result.
> Stop letting people get away with molesting and raping and child
> pornography and a good number of these obese people won't ever get
> there.
>
>
If you read what I said, a great number of the
> people who are overweight are that way because they have been molested
> or abused.
Are you sure about this? Do you have any references? I am sure it
happens sometimes but most??
>
>>Note that alcoholism is also a psychiatric disorder.
>
>
> Like I said....attack the root, not the product. Why do people
> drink? Alcoholism is mostly genetic, passed on through family
> members, as is morbid obesity. Note I said mostly, not all. Why,
> then, do some show the signs and symptoms of the disorder while others
> don't? Maybe it has to do with how these people are treated in
> childhood.
>
Alcoholism is mostly genetic, passed on through family
> members, as is morbid obesity.
Again, are you sure? Positive it's not environment??
>
>> DUI and "drunk and disorderly" conduct are
>>crimes. And it's illegal to sell drugs and to sell alcohol to people under
>>21. At one time alcoholics, and I think drug abusers too, were put in
>>mental institutions.
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>
> Poorly enforced crimes. Kids in middle school take drugs now. They
> can get it on every corner. Like I said, it's a symptom, not the root
> of the problem. We keep trying to put bandaids on brain tumors and
> don't understand why the problem continues.
>
>
I don't believe kids in middle school do drugs because of some deep
seated problem, mostly. It's just a time to experiment and it's just
occuring earlier and earlier. When I was in high school the vast
majority of the kids did drugs of some sort, mostly pot but if we had
easy access to other drugs then those would be tried as well.
Debs
>>>Child molesters get off
>>>with a slap on the hand. Drunk drivers who hit someone and kill them
>>>often don't even go to jail.
>>
>>I've never heard of any such cases. Such cases are certainly not the norm.
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>
> The guy who lived kitty corner to us was a convicted child molester.
> He did less than a year for molesting 3 kids. While out on probation,
> he started offending again and was only caught when he publicly
> molested a little girl at WalMart. Then he finally went to prison.
> Norm? Look on the Internet. There are kiddy porn sites all over the
> place. Alcohol is pushed along with sex all over the TV via
> commercials with half-dressed women licking their lips like they're
> all for whatever you want to do to them. Our sports stars get
> arrested for drunk driving all the time and are onlly penalized if
> it's the 3rd or 4th time. The coach of the St. Louis Cardinals was
> pulled over in Florida, speeding and drunk as a skunk. It's perfectly
> acceptable behavior. One of the Cardinals died last year, going over
> 75 on the highway on the way from one party to another, plowed
> already. He was idolized and memorialized at the stadium. What is
> wrong with our country? You wanna stop that kind of crap and maybe
> you'll get rid of some of the problem.
>
>
>>Is it possible that the legislator wants to improve the health of the obese
>>and lower our health care costs?
>>
>
>
> How is punishing the people with the problem instead of dealing with
> the symptoms going to improve anything? We are spending too much on
> prisons already. Deal with the root of the problem, not the
> symptoms.
>
>
>>How about if those of you who favor this counseling pay for it. My health
>>insurance costs are already too high thank you!
>
>
> How about making the molesters and abusers and neglectful parents pay
> for the counseling? They are the perpetuators of the problem, not the
> recipients.
>
>
>>It sounds like you have a cross reserved for the legislator. So, not being
>>perfect, I have no right to an opinion on what should be illegal?
>
>
> Nope. Not what I said. But if you can legislate obesity, then you'd
> better legislate all the other things that happen as the result of
> people making selfish decisions that lead to the abuse of another.
> I've been on the obese side. I've been the object of nasty looks,
> nasty jokes, and discrimination because I was beaten and molested as a
> child. My molester never went to jail. He just went on to molest
> other little girls because I was a kid and the law doesn't listen to
> kids.
>
> I happen to think that a lot of things ought to be illegal, but none
> of them fall under the heading of punishing someone for imposing a
> penalty on themselves for being abused or neglected, which is what
> obesity is. It is the internalizing of the guilt feelings of a person
> for being attractive enough or gullible enough or young enough to have
> someone take advantage of their innocence. They seek to hide the
> guilt and whatever it was that attracted the abuser under a layer of
> fat. Our society is screwed up enough without trying to play judge
> and jury against the innocent who have been violated.
>
> Trisha in MO
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