On Jul 24, 8:45 pm, "eBob.com" <faken...@totallybogus.com> wrote:
> So ... any action which results from a psychiatric disorder should not be
> considered criminal? How about pedophilia?
I didn't say that. I'm saying find out why before you go tying laws
to the disorder. If you read what I said, a great number of the
people who are overweight are that way because they have been molested
or abused. Deal with the root of the problem instead of the result.
Stop letting people get away with molesting and raping and child
pornography and a good number of these obese people won't ever get
there.
> Note that alcoholism is also a psychiatric disorder.
Like I said....attack the root, not the product. Why do people
drink? Alcoholism is mostly genetic, passed on through family
members, as is morbid obesity. Note I said mostly, not all. Why,
then, do some show the signs and symptoms of the disorder while others
don't? Maybe it has to do with how these people are treated in
childhood.
> DUI and "drunk and disorderly" conduct are
> crimes. And it's illegal to sell drugs and to sell alcohol to people under
> 21. At one time alcoholics, and I think drug abusers too, were put in
> mental institutions.
Poorly enforced crimes. Kids in middle school take drugs now. They
can get it on every corner. Like I said, it's a symptom, not the root
of the problem. We keep trying to put bandaids on brain tumors and
don't understand why the problem continues.
> > Child molesters get off
> > with a slap on the hand. Drunk drivers who hit someone and kill them
> > often don't even go to jail.
>
> I've never heard of any such cases. Such cases are certainly not the norm.
The guy who lived kitty corner to us was a convicted child molester.
He did less than a year for molesting 3 kids. While out on probation,
he started offending again and was only caught when he publicly
molested a little girl at WalMart. Then he finally went to prison.
Norm? Look on the Internet. There are kiddy porn sites all over the
place. Alcohol is pushed along with sex all over the TV via
commercials with half-dressed women licking their lips like they're
all for whatever you want to do to them. Our sports stars get
arrested for drunk driving all the time and are onlly penalized if
it's the 3rd or 4th time. The coach of the St. Louis Cardinals was
pulled over in Florida, speeding and drunk as a skunk. It's perfectly
acceptable behavior. One of the Cardinals died last year, going over
75 on the highway on the way from one party to another, plowed
already. He was idolized and memorialized at the stadium. What is
wrong with our country? You wanna stop that kind of crap and maybe
you'll get rid of some of the problem.
>
> Is it possible that the legislator wants to improve the health of the obese
> and lower our health care costs?
>
How is punishing the people with the problem instead of dealing with
the symptoms going to improve anything? We are spending too much on
prisons already. Deal with the root of the problem, not the
symptoms.
>
> How about if those of you who favor this counseling pay for it. My health
> insurance costs are already too high thank you!
How about making the molesters and abusers and neglectful parents pay
for the counseling? They are the perpetuators of the problem, not the
recipients.
>
> It sounds like you have a cross reserved for the legislator. So, not being
> perfect, I have no right to an opinion on what should be illegal?
Nope. Not what I said. But if you can legislate obesity, then you'd
better legislate all the other things that happen as the result of
people making selfish decisions that lead to the abuse of another.
I've been on the obese side. I've been the object of nasty looks,
nasty jokes, and discrimination because I was beaten and molested as a
child. My molester never went to jail. He just went on to molest
other little girls because I was a kid and the law doesn't listen to
kids.
I happen to think that a lot of things ought to be illegal, but none
of them fall under the heading of punishing someone for imposing a
penalty on themselves for being abused or neglected, which is what
obesity is. It is the internalizing of the guilt feelings of a person
for being attractive enough or gullible enough or young enough to have
someone take advantage of their innocence. They seek to hide the
guilt and whatever it was that attracted the abuser under a layer of
fat. Our society is screwed up enough without trying to play judge
and jury against the innocent who have been violated.
Trisha in MO
aka_velcro
ReaderRabbit
