Deborah A Adams/ Betterflies1/Butterflies2/ Bee/
BeeStings/Bedbackwards/"Annie" <SNIFFFThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 29, 7:34 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> This has absolutely nothing to do with Janet Drew.
>
It has plenty to do with Janet Drew.
As you continued to make up stuff and harass me; it was crystal clear
you were clueless about what was transpiring.
I asked you to apologize (and you did not).
As soon as I knew "who"--"what" and "where"
You made up stories (Dr K forwarded the emails you sent out) that I
had "joined the gang."
I'm not in any gang.
For your information, it was Andrew Langer who gave me the heads up
that my conversation with him had "looped." If it weren't for Coleah,
I would never have known. Both Myrl and Coleah were trying to help me
find out who was hacking into my computer and who was picking up my in-
home conversations, and stalking me in person, and electronically.
And why my telephone lines were/are tapped.
That's when I went out and got "professional help," from several of
the "Mitchell Brothers," which I am sure you have no idea what or who
that is.
I was simply trying to figure out who had been stalking me all of
these years, as well as the rest of the old witnesses
to the PR&R lawsuits that ended in 2001. (We've all had our share of
horror stories).
My health care provider has been more than just "a little concerned"
about my stress level. (I've been equally as concerned). And very
concerned that I've been listened to, stalked, and followed and
watched for 11-1/2 years. But I am not the only one. The common
thread between all of us that were connected to those old lawsuits is
that we take part in alternative health therapies (our medical plans
provide for them).
But you do not use the Department of Defense for civil lawsuits nor do
you use the DOD to stalk and harass people after the lawsuits are over
with. Apparently there are people running around loose that
believe that they are above the law.
Sorry readers this is long and repeated. I am not about to spend the time
to correct it. OTOH, perhaps it needs to be repeated.
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From: Annie <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
Subject: Public Notice to Janet Drew
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 23:24:56 -0700 (PDT)
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It is my duty to inform you that I have filed two reports with two
federal agencies this week against you for Harassment. I've asked you
to "cease" and you have continued. I have given you every opportunity
to "cease," and all you have done is libel yourself over and over and
over.
Any further discussion about me from you will be considered
"retaliation" and "retaliation" is against the law.
Leave my name out of your conversations and I will do the same towards
you.
Thank you.
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Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 01:43:09 -0400
Yes, Deborah Annie Adams?
"Annie" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> It is my duty to inform you that I have filed two reports with two
> federal agencies this week against you for Harassment. I've asked you
> to "cease" and you have continued. I have given you every opportunity
> to "cease," and all you have done is libel yourself over and over and
> over.
Anecdotes are not facts. They are, at best interesting stories. At
worst, outright lies.
>
> Any further discussion about me from you will be considered
> "retaliation" and "retaliation" is against the law.
LOL!!!
>
> Leave my name out of your conversations and I will do the same towards
> you.
>
> Thank you.
Bring it on Deborah Annie Adams.
Harassment and LIES from you.
From: Bedbackwards <bedbackward...@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:20:31 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jun 16 2008 5:20 pm
Subject: Re: Debbee, Bee, or whatever your 'nym is these days...
I do know that there are TWO Jan Drews posting here, and two Ilena's.
*I have friends that work as defense subcontractors for the DOD*
* I have friends that work at Stanford.*
I have friends that are members of NAISG.Org.*
*I just happen to have friends that work in various parts of the world doing
various
things for a living.*
*I have friends in high places, those in the know.*
* A friend moved there a few weeks ago.*
*Jan posts from Stanford University*
*I do know that there are TWO Jan Drews posting here, and two Ilena's. *
*make it very perfectly clear that you
have no clue of what you are discussing about me, and those that do,
are laughing at you.*
* the garbage that is spewing from your
toxic mouth.*
*You are *fucking pathetic*
*I've caught Jan lying. She is dellusional*
*Jan Drew Uses the SDSU system to make posts*
*Jan Drew is posting through Stanford's computer system.*
*Jan Drew is in college-whatta surprise!!*
*Jan posts from Stanford University.*
From: Bee <Butterflies2...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:51:29 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Apr 20 2008 11:51 pm
Subject: Jan Drew is in College at Stanford and SDSU-whatta surprise!
From: Bee <Butterflies2...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:52:40 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Apr 24 2008 1:52 am
Subject: No emails have spammed anyone from this account
I am not Debbee Adams.
From: Bee <Butterflies2...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:47:45 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Apr 21 2008 8:47 pm
Subject: Re: Jan Drew Uses the SDSU system to make posts
From: Butterflies1...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:59:03 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Apr 27 2008 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: Mark Probert Has Emailed His Brother-In-Law At Homeland
Security About a VERY benign email exchange. Very Strange!!!!!
On Apr 26, 3:59 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> But--you said there are no gangs here.
There are no gangs here -- but there are thugs connected.
Discussion subject changed to "Debbee Adams threats--
???????????????????????" by Bee
Jan posts from Stanford University
From: Bedbackwards <bedbackward...@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:20:31 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jun 16 2008 5:20 pm
Subject: Re: Debbee, Bee, or whatever your 'nym is these days...
I do know that there are TWO Jan Drews posting here, and two Ilena's.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/9785801f97...
On Apr 27, 6:22 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> From your posts--three hours behind EST.
That covers 4 states --- Oregon, California, Nevada, Washington, parts
of Idaho and Arizona.
> I have learned recently -- differently.
> I do not believe anything you say at this point.
> I had a entertaining unsolicited telephone call recently.
> ZZzz.
Were you the woman that called me and told me about Probert, claiming
they found my information on the net?
====
NO. I did not call you asking any such thing.
Wasn't it YOU who called someone and left your number on her answering
machine?
It Started with 253?
Now, do tell us again all about the meaning of libel!
Oh, that's right. You don't have to prove anything.
However, please keep in mind, GOD knows.
You can chose to shut up while you are FAR behind, or keep exposing
yourself.
Your choice.
What was wrote....
You, Deborah Annie Adams first wrote:
Jan:
Since it would appear that you always have to be "right,"
it would appear that you can not admit that you invented some stories
about me that are not truthful in nature.
I sent you a "cease and desist" letter from this email address.
I only came back to post (I still get all of the emails from the
group) and make it very perfectly clear that you
have no clue of what you are discussing about me, and those that do,
are laughing at you.
Would you rather be, "right," in your own mind, or look foolish
amongst those that are "in the know."
I'm no longer reading this newsgroup, and came back when yet again,
you would appear to be a few sandwiches short of a full picnic,
and I will not longer tolerate the garbage that is spewing from your
toxic mouth.
Leave my name out of your discussions. Lose my name from your
vocabulary.
Got it? I hope so.
And by the way, Annie is a nickname that some people call me because
it is part of my name.
Just because I am no longer posting, does not mean I am no longer
reading.
"BeeStings" <dbeesti...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Jan:
Yes, Debbee?
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> Since it would appear that you always have to be "right,"
Oh, really?
*would appear*, why don't you just speak up?
> it would appear that you can not admit that you invented some stories
> about me that are not truthful in nature.
I have nothing to admit, since I did NOT invent any stories about you,
Debbee Adams.
> I sent you a "cease and desist" letter from this email address.
NO, you did not. In fact you sent me an email form SNIFFFTHIS,
and used the name Annie, then signed it B.
> I only came back to post (I still get all of the emails from the
> group) and make it very perfectly clear that you
> have no clue of what you are discussing about me, and those that do,
> are laughing at you.
> Would you rather be, "right," in your own mind, or look foolish
> amongst those that are "in the know."
> I'm no longer reading this newsgroup, and came back when yet again,
> you would appear to be a few sandwiches short of a full picnic,
> and I will not longer tolerate the garbage that is spewing from your
> toxic mouth.
> Leave my name out of your discussions. Lose my name from your
> vocabulary.
> Got it? I hope so.
> And by the way, Annie is a nickname that some people call me because
> it is part of my name.
lol. I thought you said you were not Annie?
> Just because I am no longer posting, does not mean I am no longer
> reading.
lol. Poor Debbee:
*I'm no longer reading this newsgroup*.
Get help.
Now, I will in fact post the email you sent me in another post.
And......................
Don't even think about telling me what to do, post, or--otherwise, Debbee.
Got that?
Debbee A Adams do NOT email me again using different names, and a bit of
history
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June 21, 2008
This written to advise you to "cease and desist" from discussing me, and
libeling me any further than you have. I'm tired of you posting about
untruthful information about me, and Annie is one of my names.
I have proof that my computer was hacked into, and hacked into people
connected to Quackwatch. All you are doing is making a bigger fool out of
yourself than you already have. Bob Kulacz, and Tim Bolen have copies of
the emails I sent. The windows portion of my Mac Book was hacked into, and
I'm no longer on Wireless. I am on dial-up.
You have no idea of what you are talking about.
You falsely accused me of (Bob Kulacz forwarded me the emails) of going to
California to stalk Ilena, that I had joined the gang, and that you didn't
trust me. This was entire fairy tale that you and Ilena made up, and I'm
sorry that you feel that anyone that doesn't agree with you is a LIAR, but
you have libelled me for the last time. It will not happen again. I am no
longer posting there and there is no further need to discuss me.
Ask your attorney to explain what "LIBEL" is. Calling someone a liar just
because you don't happen to believe them, is libel.
And there are two J. Drew's. It was even pointed out by another poster in
the group.
Thank you.
Deborah Annie Adams
--------------------------------------------
OOPs, note is is now J. Drew and not Jan Drew's
Now, let's see what both Myrl Jeffcoat and Coleah Ayres has to say about
Debbee
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/8239d7e6a3...
Oct 27, 2007
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant
From: Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:52:42 -0000
Local: Sat, Oct 27 2007 10:52 am
Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA
You have contacted my employer which goes outside the bounds of civil
behavior one Usenet. I consider you to be a stalker and abuser.
Therefore, I will no longer respond to you except to post this
message.
YOU ARE HEREBY PLACED ON NOTICE NOT TO ATTEMPT TO CONTACT ME IN THE
SLIGHTEST MANNER. YOU ARE NOT TO CONTACT ANYONE ABOUT ME. TO DO SO
WILL JUSTIFY MY TAKING FURTHER ACTION, WHEN, WHERE AND WHAT AS I SEE
FIT.
On Oct 27, 12:16 am, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Oct 26, 4:37 pm, Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > For a list of the actual webpages created by Ilena Rosenthal, please
> > visit:
> >http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com/ilenawebpages.html
> > For the Truth and the Facts surrounding Ilena Rosenthal and her
> > foundation, please visit:
> >http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
> I ran Ilena Rosenthal's name through a bunch of databases. I also
> called the DRE. Ilena Rosenthal has a license through the DRE, as do
> you, Myrl Jeffcoat. Have you done anything Myrl or Ilena that would
> violate the code ethics of the licenses you have?? I'm kind of
> curious to find out if something I read a while back has any truth
> attached to it. I have read where fans of celebrities have started
> websites using the celebrities names in the website address, and the
> celebrities have successfully been able to have those websites removed
> because the fan was using a name other than their own in the web
> address, and without permission.
------------------------------------
Follow that thread. You will see Debbee Adams--Snifffthis has nuked her
posts.
However, she evidently cannot nuke her profile.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/948ed26ada...
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant
From: Coleah <col...@pacifier.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:56:27 -0700
Local: Tues, Oct 23 2007 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA
DEBBEE SAID: "Apparently you have nothing better to do, some of us
work for a living. Some of us have real lives."
>From the mouth of (2nd from left) blonde:
Debbee A Adams (54)
San Carlos, CA and Milton, WA
http://www.louielouie.net/pix-2007/loufest2007/ep-da-jeff-rfs.jpg
I am very happily RETIRED from working.
But, thank you for your 'unusual concern' about how I spend MY time.
You wouldn't have been 'baiting' to learn who my 'employer' was, so
you could complain about me, were you?????? Chortle, chortle,
chortle.
[Apparently DEBBEE has nothing better to do (while she's 'working' so
hard for a living) than to search the internet looking for some kind
of 'dirt' on people. The best she could do with me was find a
reference to a store I previously owned.]
Is that YOUR 'real life', DEBBEE?
Certainly writing for little known rag called 60's Beat can't be all
you do to pay the rent.
>From a few previous poster's mentioning something about DEBBEE and a
lawsuit....I got the impression DEBBEE had sued Mark Lindsey of Paul
Revere and the Raiders. Alas it appears was the other way around.
Funny how she denied any knowledge of it however.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/536569d0bf...
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant
From: Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:06:53 -0000
Local: Tues, Oct 23 2007 8:06 pm
Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA
On Oct 23, 2:33 pm, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Oct 23, 9:56 am, Coleah <col...@pacifier.com> wrote:
> I know nothing of what you are speaking about.
> I'm not the editor of any publication.
> I do not live in Milton, WA or San Carlos, CA
> There goes your credibility, Coleah right down the tube.
> Deb Adams is not even my real name.
So then Debbee - when you contacted corporate GMAC in the last couple
of days, to complain about me, you are saying you lied about your
name???
---------------------------------------
On Oct 23, 4:43 pm, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Oct 23, 3:50 pm, Coleah <col...@pacifier.com> wrote:
> It is *not your business*, Miss Busy Body, of *who* I am, *what* I do
> for a living, and *where* I live. Nor is *your business* what I am
> even
> doing here. This is the Usenet, and ANYONE can post here, for any
> reason. Got it? Good. Mind your own business, and I'll mind mine.
Wow - Debbee is calling people "Miss Busy Body" - and stating it isn't
our business to know *who" she is, *what" she does for a living, or
*where* she lives. Yet, she sees fit to get into other people's
business, calling their employers, etc. and giving fictious and
defamatory information.
What a piece of work you are Debbee!
I can understand why you would wish to come out from under a rock to
do your business, and then slither right back under again, once you've
done your reptilian handiwork!
You appear to be just another "free speech" hypocrite.
"BeeStings" <dbeesti...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:572e071b-2610-4d60-b4e5-9f45ceae2b93@r37g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
> Jan Drew wrote:
>> *I'm no longer reading this newsgroup*.
>> Get help.
>> Now, I will in fact post the email you sent me in another post.
>> And......................
>> Don't even think about telling me what to do, post, or--otherwise,
>> Debbee.
>> Got that?
> It would appear that you need professional help in dealing with your
> abusive behavior.
> Just because someone has abused you in the past, or present, does not
> give you the absolute
> right to abuse others. Nor does it give you any special privileges to
> post lies about people you do not even know.
> If you do not know where to turn for professional help; I suggest
> contacting your doctor and asking for referrals.
> You are the one that needs help, not me.
> I think it would be in your best interest to remove the post you just
> made.
> Thank you.
It DOES appear, not *would* that YOU Deborah Annie Adams need professional
help.
You have NEVER proven a single one of your false accusations. Nor--have you
proven you KNOW
there are two Jan Drew's posting on any of the same groups *I* Jan Drew post
on.
There has been no abusive behavior towards you for me.
Your words:
* Just because someone has abused you in the past, or present, does not
> give you the absolute
> right to abuse others.
And, just who would that be? Where did that come from?
It DOES appear, you do not know what you are posting about
So much for libel.
Now, either put up or shut up!
"BeeStings" <dbeesti...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:d055491b-85d5-42b1-997f-4248f15e388f@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Apparently, Cal here hasn't a clue that I know where the laser
> activity that is aimed at my house, and where the computer is that
> picking up inhome conversations.....is. I know.....so do a lot of
> other people. All Saints Lutheran Church. Duh.
> Martin R. Dopps works for my healthcare provider, Group Health. He is
> the Associate Director of Finance, He hates my guts. He is
> familiar with RICO, as he and other board members voted to take
> themselves themselves out to dinner at the Melting Pot, and used
> neighborhood Homeowner Association money, and if I hadn't made the
> discovery that the non profit had administratively been dissolved by
> the State of Washington, and demanded to view the financial records
> none of the neighbors would have known this. They had to pay it
> back.
> Apparently old Marty likes publicity...just in the paper (Seattle) for
> riding his bike to and from work. Now, he's on the internet....
> It would appear Cal, that your buddy is Marty Dopps!!
> By the way, Cal, you have such information that only someone inside of
> my home could have...don't believe you've been invited in...
> Tim Bolen was right when he said it smells of RICO, as it most
> certainly does.....
> Good old Marty installed the computer service for his church, All
> Saints Church about 2 years ago. (how nice). Complete with a server
> (Liquid Web out of Michigan). Why such a little church office would
> need such an elaborate computer service is beyond me.
> Talk about being a hyprocrite. Going to church, and then monitoring a
> neighbor....what a sleaze bag....but he does fit in with.....just
> talking with someone this morning on my porch---not the same guy I was
> talking to about "toothpaste" yesterday morning, but since their
> privacy has been evaded as well...oh well, this isn't the venue for
> this type of talk.....
From: Bedbackwards <bedbackward...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:39:45 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jun 12 2008 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: Mark S Probert DTABOR's proves AGAIN he does NOT read Torah
everyday-- CJ...the answer to your question....
Hey witch, go sit on your broomstick and twirl....sounds like you need
to get the cobwebs out of your **** because your husband probably
wouldn't touch you with a ten foot pole (and I don't blame him
either). I'm sitting with a detective ---going through the 5000 pages
(on the windows side alone) of malicious attacks on my firewall.
Eat shit and live, SISTAH!
From: Bedbackwards <bedbackward...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:28:42 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jun 12 2008 6:28 pm
Subject: Re: Dot to Dot Part 3---
On Jun 12, 2:45 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Leave my family out of it.
Absolutely NOT..asshole. They stay IN, after all....they would
apparently approve of what you do here in the newsgroups, and
outside! Besides...I'm aware of the private investigator here ---
why shouldn't you be aware of the others around the country?
> > 4. I told him that your brother 'n' law was in Homeland Security---
> > because I felt he should know. (by the way, that is out there on the
> > internet, so that is no surprise).
> Sure it is, NOT.
Bullshit, asshole. You just make up anything that fits your agenda,
do you not?
But it seems to run like loose stools throughout the Quackwatch lunch
bunch.
The fact that your brother in law is with Homeland Security is well
chronicled all over the internet, do a google search! It is also well
chronicled he was with the NY Police Department under Rudy G. And he
is a politician, because he ran for office. Do try to get it right.
And your sister 'n' law Marsha ---uses the internet - do see if you
can find her name too. Don't deny it, it is out there.
Debbee Adams (aka)"Bedbackwards" <bedbackward...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Absolutely not, ASSHOLE. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on---it
is common knowledge who you are and what you are, and I do not have to
prove anything. This is not kangaroo court, and you are not a fucking
attorney! You are a fucking disbarred attorney.
*fucking pathetic*
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/8239d7e6a30ac24d
Oct 27, 2007
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant
From: Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:52:42 -0000
Local: Sat, Oct 27 2007 10:52 am
Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA
You have contacted my employer which goes outside the bounds of civil
behavior one Usenet. I consider you to be a stalker and abuser.
Therefore, I will no longer respond to you except to post this
message.
YOU ARE HEREBY PLACED ON NOTICE NOT TO ATTEMPT TO CONTACT ME IN THE
SLIGHTEST MANNER. YOU ARE NOT TO CONTACT ANYONE ABOUT ME. TO DO SO
WILL JUSTIFY MY TAKING FURTHER ACTION, WHEN, WHERE AND WHAT AS I SEE
FIT.
On Oct 27, 12:16 am, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Oct 26, 4:37 pm, Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > For a list of the actual webpages created by Ilena Rosenthal, please
> > visit:
> >http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com/ilenawebpages.html
> > For the Truth and the Facts surrounding Ilena Rosenthal and her
> > foundation, please visit:
> >http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
> I ran Ilena Rosenthal's name through a bunch of databases. I also
> called the DRE. Ilena Rosenthal has a license through the DRE, as do
> you, Myrl Jeffcoat. Have you done anything Myrl or Ilena that would
> violate the code ethics of the licenses you have?? I'm kind of
> curious to find out if something I read a while back has any truth
> attached to it. I have read where fans of celebrities have started
> websites using the celebrities names in the website address, and the
> celebrities have successfully been able to have those websites removed
> because the fan was using a name other than their own in the web
> address, and without permission.
------------------------------------
Follow that thread. You will see Debbee Adams--Snifffthis has nuked her
posts.
However, she evidently cannot nuke her profile.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/948ed26adae3aaa5
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant
From: Coleah <col...@pacifier.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:56:27 -0700
Local: Tues, Oct 23 2007 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA
DEBBEE SAID: "Apparently you have nothing better to do, some of us
work for a living. Some of us have real lives."
>From the mouth of (2nd from left) blonde:
Debbee A Adams (54)
San Carlos, CA and Milton, WA
http://www.louielouie.net/pix-2007/loufest2007/ep-da-jeff-rfs.jpg
I am very happily RETIRED from working.
But, thank you for your 'unusual concern' about how I spend MY time.
You wouldn't have been 'baiting' to learn who my 'employer' was, so
you could complain about me, were you?????? Chortle, chortle,
chortle.
[Apparently DEBBEE has nothing better to do (while she's 'working' so
hard for a living) than to search the internet looking for some kind
of 'dirt' on people. The best she could do with me was find a
reference to a store I previously owned.]
Is that YOUR 'real life', DEBBEE?
Certainly writing for little known rag called 60's Beat can't be all
you do to pay the rent.
>From a few previous poster's mentioning something about DEBBEE and a
lawsuit....I got the impression DEBBEE had sued Mark Lindsey of Paul
Revere and the Raiders. Alas it appears was the other way around.
Funny how she denied any knowledge of it however.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/536569d0bf1cfed9
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant
From: Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:06:53 -0000
Local: Tues, Oct 23 2007 8:06 pm
Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA
On Oct 23, 2:33 pm, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Oct 23, 9:56 am, Coleah <col...@pacifier.com> wrote:
> I know nothing of what you are speaking about.
> I'm not the editor of any publication.
> I do not live in Milton, WA or San Carlos, CA
> There goes your credibility, Coleah right down the tube.
> Deb Adams is not even my real name.
So then Debbee - when you contacted corporate GMAC in the last couple
of days, to complain about me, you are saying you lied about your
name???
---------------------------------------
On Oct 23, 4:43 pm, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Oct 23, 3:50 pm, Coleah <col...@pacifier.com> wrote:
> It is *not your business*, Miss Busy Body, of *who* I am, *what* I do
> for a living, and *where* I live. Nor is *your business* what I am
> even
> doing here. This is the Usenet, and ANYONE can post here, for any
> reason. Got it? Good. Mind your own business, and I'll mind mine.
Wow - Debbee is calling people "Miss Busy Body" - and stating it isn't
our business to know *who" she is, *what" she does for a living, or
*where* she lives. Yet, she sees fit to get into other people's
business, calling their employers, etc. and giving fictious and
defamatory information.
What a piece of work you are Debbee!
I can understand why you would wish to come out from under a rock to
do your business, and then slither right back under again, once you've
done your reptilian handiwork!
You appear to be just another "free speech" hypocrite.
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
From: "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:56:42 -0400
Local: Sat, Jun 14 2008 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: How it all Came Down with Kulacz and Probert
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/eee056eaf679c568
Debee Adams (aka"Bedbackwards" <bedbackward...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 1. Mark Probert initiated the emails to Kulacz (I saw them).
> How did that come about?
I asked to see after he made his post.
> > 2. Mark Probert stated he was never a lawyer. (this is common
> > knowledge he was, the addresses match).
> > 3. I warned Kulacz to watch it because Probert's brother in law was in
> > Homeland Security.
> You had no way of knowing that. None. Neither Google or Yahoo return
> any results.
There are other court cases on file with that address. Public records
usually do not lie.
> But I also told Kulacz if there were any problems
> > I have friends in high places....and I'm not just talking about God.
> Chuckle.
I'm aware of your connections with Quackwatch, and all of the
governmental agencies. That is common knowledge.
> > 4. Both Kulacz and I called Internal Affairs and then was referred to
> > the FBI AFTER Probert emailed Kulacz and told him that he had
> > forwarded Kulacz' email on to his brother 'n' law at Homeland
> > Security. Separately, and with no knowledge of it until later, both
> > Kulacz and I called Homeland Security and both were referred to the
> > FBI. The FBI told me if Probert's BIL overstepped his turf in anyway,
> > that he would be disclipined.
> Since he has not been disciplined....as I reported it to him.
Good. Let's hope so.
> > 5. Probert is unaware that the information about his BIL being in
> > Homeland Security was on the internet. And it is not my job to post
> > the link. (it's all over the internet how Probert emailed his brother
> > at Homeland Security now).
> You had no way of knowing that. None. Neither Google or Yahoo return
> any results.
Yes, google your brother in law. He was with Rudy's security and
that's well chronicled on the internet. He ran for office and didn't
make it. He is a public figure. As you are. I am not.
> I did initate email with Kulacz, but the exchange was quite over when
> HE emailed ME about my BIL.
And that makes it a crime. I think not. There are a lot of people in
Homeland Security, not just your BIL. Your BIL is/was a real estate
agent too.
> >bedbackwards One thing people have to realize is that Probert has never
> >fully
> > returned from Viet Nam,
> YOU keep raising that. I do not. You are imagining things.
I don't think I am. You learned security from your time in service
for our country. That job is over with. You claim you do other
things now. You are not a private investigator, yet you claim you
investigate people for a living, for the insurance world.
> You are delusional.
I've seen some of your emails - I believe you are delusional.
> /UDP off/
> Listen to Jan Drew. She has given you excellent advice. And, when we
> agree, you know it is correct.
> /UDP on/
The two of you need to stop telling people to do the very same things
that they need to do.
I've caught Jan lying. She is dellusional, accusing me of going to
California to stalk Ilena.
Why would I go to California to stalk Ilena?
Wow! Where did I do that? Post it using my very own words.
I have better things to
do with my time. I have a lot of
friends in California. I have a lot of friends for that matter all
over the country.
Then she falsely accused me of "joining the gang."
FACT: You accused me of that before.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/a07e4c600e...
April 27 2008
and accused me of joining "the
gang."
Really? Do post your proof of that.
It would appear you joined the gang!
You said there were no gangs here.
Get a grip and stop posting lies.
I'm not a gang
member, and I certainly did not join any gang.
Jan Drew claimed she was using "spyware."
NO, I did not.
Liar, liar, pants on fire.
Then she claims she has
never hacked.
I have NOT hacked anything EVER period.
f this. Yet, you are the
one that has posted over and over about your family.
Let's talk delusional shall we? Denying you were an attorney, when in
fact you were?
Denying you were an attorney puts you in the delusional column.
Both of you would appear to need help.
You have lied repeatedly.
FACT: YOU posted *Jan Drew Uses the SDSU system to make posts*
AND
*Jan Drew is posting through Stanford's computer system.*
AND
*Jan Drew is in college-whatta surprise!!*
AND
*Jan posts from Stanford University.*
Like I stated Get help.
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From: Annie <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
Subject: Re: Mark Probert - I have a question...
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On Aug 1, 11:08=A0am, Raving <raving.loo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How is proctology involved, here?
It would appear some of the individuals here have been in accidents.
Rear-Ended so to speak.
One could call that an emergency proctology exam!
Almost like the poor woman that backed up into the propellers of a
small plane.
Disaster!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/192dda796ca4da06
From: BeeStings <dbeesti...@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:08:43 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jun 26 2008 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: Debbee/Deborah Annie Adams
"BeeStings" <dbeesti...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3eba8128-72f8-4d08-95a1-5d326dfa457d@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 25, 10:23 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> It is clear to all YOU cannot.
You are the very reason God invented the "C" word that rhymes with
"Bunt." Because that is what you would appear to be. A C***. I hate
that word and only use it when appropriate. It is appropriate in your
case. You are a disruptive nosey OLD bitch. I have asked you to stop
posting about me in the MHA, then you took it to the ASBI as you feel
that you want to include the people there in your attempt to destroy
my credibility. The only person you are destroying is yourself.
I do not have to prove anything to you. I have the proof. Just
because you cannot find it in your C Drive doesn't mean that the proof
does not exist. I know you store absolutely anything anyone posts out
here in your computer and it is probably indexed, but the proof does
not belong out in this newsgroup.
Apparently you have forgotten that you were once a part of an
alternative health email discussion group. Duh.
Mark Probert actually did me a favor, and gave me a clue "Pacific
Lutheran Computer Science Department." From there I was able with
the help of a family member high in the security food chain to
discover that a neighbor in my own backyard made a platform for the
hacking. The lawsuits for Paul Revere and the Raiders (mine and
Revere's) would appear to have been orchestrated by Quackwatch. The
Texas Medical Board, and the attorneys for the AAPS lawsuit have that
information as do an array of other attorneys. You are not an
attorney, Jan. It is not your business. If you wish to continue to
make it your business, I'm sure I could find another venue where we
could duke it out, it would cost each of us a lot of money, and it
would serve no purpose.
Please leave me out of your discussions. It is completely off topic
in the MHA and ASBI.
I'm no longer posting here but I will come out to defend myself
against your continued personal attacks on me. Please Cease.
From: Bedbackwards <bedbackward...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:39:45 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jun 12 2008 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: Mark S Probert DTABOR's proves AGAIN he does NOT read Torah
everyday-- CJ...the answer to your question....
Hey witch, go sit on your broomstick and twirl....sounds like you need
to get the cobwebs out of your **** because your husband probably
wouldn't touch you with a ten foot pole (and I don't blame him
either). I'm sitting with a detective ---going through the 5000 pages
(on the windows side alone) of malicious attacks on my firewall.
Eat shit and live, SISTAH!
From: Bedbackwards <bedbackward...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:28:42 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jun 12 2008 6:28 pm
Subject: Re: Dot to Dot Part 3---
On Jun 12, 2:45 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Leave my family out of it.
Absolutely NOT..asshole. They stay IN, after all....they would
apparently approve of what you do here in the newsgroups, and
outside! Besides...I'm aware of the private investigator here ---
why shouldn't you be aware of the others around the country?
> > 4. I told him that your brother 'n' law was in Homeland Security---
> > because I felt he should know. (by the way, that is out there on the
> > internet, so that is no surprise).
> Sure it is, NOT.
Bullshit, asshole. You just make up anything that fits your agenda,
do you not?
But it seems to run like loose stools throughout the Quackwatch lunch
bunch.
The fact that your brother in law is with Homeland Security is well
chronicled all over the internet, do a google search! It is also well
chronicled he was with the NY Police Department under Rudy G. And he
is a politician, because he ran for office. Do try to get it right.
And your sister 'n' law Marsha ---uses the internet - do see if you
can find her name too. Don't deny it, it is out there.
Debbee Adams (aka)"Bedbackwards" <bedbackward...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Absolutely not, ASSHOLE. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on---it
is common knowledge who you are and what you are, and I do not have to
prove anything. This is not kangaroo court, and you are not a fucking
attorney! You are a fucking disbarred attorney.
"BeeStings" <dbeesti...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:08826d91-fea1-487b-8d03-5a5dfa714167@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> Jan Drew wrote:
>
>> Friends, many friends and I have friends.
>
>
> I am not going to waste anymore bandwidth on you.
> It would appear that you are hateful, spiteful, and anything that you
> envision in your world of fantasyland that is something you cannot
> comprehend as reality you deem the individuals as a "liar."
>
> I've attempted to be nice to you, all versions of the word nice. But
> you do not respond to nice.
>
> I've attempted to civil to you, even after you wrote those
> "fantasyland" emails about me coming to California to stalk Ilena.
> Good grief. That was way out there.
>
> I only went to the gutter with you as it would appear that is where
> you enjoy playing. You appear to like to sling the mud, but you would
> appear not to have it slung back at you. If you are going to play in
> the mud you've got to learn to play fair, because all you've done so
> far is bury yourself further and further into the land of stupidity.
>
> I admit I am fat. And claiming that the reason I get along with
> Coleah because she is fat, is really a sad thing to say about people
> you do not even know. The best I can tell, and I can only speak for
> myself, you do not know me, and it would appear that you do not know
> Coleah.
>
> Being a Christian, comes with a list of ethics. But being a Christian
> comes with a long line of patience, and when you exhaust your
> patience, and when others do things to you, like hack computers, aim
> laser mikes at your home, bug your telephones, and the like, you run
> out of patience. All of this violates my civil liberties. Even that
> court order from my lawsuit with whomever it really was that sued
> Terri and myself, cannot be enforced because it violates my civil
> liberties, so all of those individuals that have enjoined themselves
> thinking that they have some super powers given to them as it would
> appear by Quackwatch, all they have done is violate my civil
> liberties. Same for any one that has had this problem. It happened
> in my old neighborhood in California, and it is happening here. How
> sad it must be for individuals to participate in this, it shows that
> they have no ethics.
>
> You wouldn't understand about laser mikes or the use of shotgun
> microphones aimed at your house. They pick up everything Audible in
> the house - from farts to your best orgasm ever. This gives them an
> advantage -- you call law enforcement, and suddenly the problem "heals
> itself" so you would attempt to look like you are crazy. This means
> when you change services in your home, that they know you've done it,
> and they are prepared for whatever service you get. This means that
> every visitor to your home civil liberties are violated as well. Even
> keystroke programs or spyware programs on computers violate your
> civil liberty rights.
>
> But no, you wouldn't understand this, because it is well beyond your
> capabilities of understanding.
>
> I am going to make this point to you one more time. You need to cease
> your posts with regard to me, and I will do the same. You would
> appear not to be the kind of individual that I am interested in
> associating with. This is a misc.health.alternative newsgroup, not
> the Jan Drew Drama Queen Review.
You, Deborah Annie Adams first wrote:
Jan:
Since it would appear that you always have to be "right,"
it would appear that you can not admit that you invented some stories
about me that are not truthful in nature.
I sent you a "cease and desist" letter from this email address.
I only came back to post (I still get all of the emails from the
group) and make it very perfectly clear that you
have no clue of what you are discussing about me, and those that do,
are laughing at you.
Would you rather be, "right," in your own mind, or look foolish
amongst those that are "in the know."
I'm no longer reading this newsgroup, and came back when yet again,
you would appear to be a few sandwiches short of a full picnic,
and I will not longer tolerate the garbage that is spewing from your
toxic mouth.
Leave my name out of your discussions. Lose my name from your
vocabulary.
Got it? I hope so.
And by the way, Annie is a nickname that some people call me because
it is part of my name.
Just because I am no longer posting, does not mean I am no longer
reading.
"BeeStings" <dbeesti...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Jan:
Yes, Debbee?
OrgName: Netscape Communications Corp.
OrgID: NSCP
Address: 501 E. Middlefield
City: Mountain View
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 94043
Country: US
NetRange: 207.200.64.0 - 207.200.127.255
CIDR: 207.200.64.0/18
NetName: NETSCAPE-CIDR
NetHandle: NET-207-200-64-0-1
Parent: NET-207-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS.NETSCAPE.COM
NameServer: NS2.NETSCAPE.COM
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate: 1996-09-06
Updated: 2001-03-28
RTechHandle: AOL-NOC-ARIN
RTechName: America Online, Inc.
RTechPhone: +1-703-265-4670
RTechEmail: doma...@aol.net
> Since it would appear that you always have to be "right,"
Oh, really?
*would appear*, why don't you just speak up?
> it would appear that you can not admit that you invented some stories
> about me that are not truthful in nature.
I have nothing to admit, since I did NOT invent any stories about you,
Debbee Adams.
> I sent you a "cease and desist" letter from this email address.
NO, you did not. In fact you sent me an email form SNIFFFTHIS,
and used the name Annie, then signed it B.
> I only came back to post (I still get all of the emails from the
> group) and make it very perfectly clear that you
> have no clue of what you are discussing about me, and those that do,
> are laughing at you.
> Would you rather be, "right," in your own mind, or look foolish
> amongst those that are "in the know."
> I'm no longer reading this newsgroup, and came back when yet again,
> you would appear to be a few sandwiches short of a full picnic,
> and I will not longer tolerate the garbage that is spewing from your
> toxic mouth.
> Leave my name out of your discussions. Lose my name from your
> vocabulary.
> Got it? I hope so.
> And by the way, Annie is a nickname that some people call me because
> it is part of my name.
lol. I thought you said you were not Annie?
> Just because I am no longer posting, does not mean I am no longer
> reading.
lol. Poor Debbee:
*I'm no longer reading this newsgroup*.
Get help.
Now, I will in fact post the email you sent me in another post.
And......................
Don't even think about telling me what to do, post, or--otherwise, Debbee.
Got that?
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This written to advise you to "cease and desist" from discussing me, and
libeling me any further than you have. I'm tired of you posting about
untruthful information about me, and Annie is one of my names.
I have proof that my computer was hacked into, and hacked into people
connected to Quackwatch. All you are doing is making a bigger fool out of
yourself than you already have. Bob Kulacz, and Tim Bolen have copies of
the emails I sent. The windows portion of my Mac Book was hacked into, and
I'm no longer on Wireless. I am on dial-up.
You have no idea of what you are talking about.
You falsely accused me of (Bob Kulacz forwarded me the emails) of going to
California to stalk Ilena, that I had joined the gang, and that you didn't
trust me. This was entire fairy tale that you and Ilena made up, and I'm
sorry that you feel that anyone that doesn't agree with you is a LIAR, but
you have libelled me for the last time. It will not happen again. I am no
longer posting there and there is no further need to discuss me.
Ask your attorney to explain what "LIBEL" is. Calling someone a liar just
because you don't happen to believe them, is libel.
And there are two J. Drew's. It was even pointed out by another poster in
the group.
Thank you.
Deborah Annie Adams
--------------------------------------------
Now, let's see what both Myrl Jeffcoat and Coleah Ayres has to say about
Debbee
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/8239d7e6a30ac24d
Oct 27, 2007
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant
From: Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:52:42 -0000
Local: Sat, Oct 27 2007 10:52 am
Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA
You have contacted my employer which goes outside the bounds of civil
behavior one Usenet. I consider you to be a stalker and abuser.
Therefore, I will no longer respond to you except to post this
message.
YOU ARE HEREBY PLACED ON NOTICE NOT TO ATTEMPT TO CONTACT ME IN THE
SLIGHTEST MANNER. YOU ARE NOT TO CONTACT ANYONE ABOUT ME. TO DO SO
WILL JUSTIFY MY TAKING FURTHER ACTION, WHEN, WHERE AND WHAT AS I SEE
FIT.
On Oct 27, 12:16 am, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Oct 26, 4:37 pm, Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > For a list of the actual webpages created by Ilena Rosenthal, please
> > visit:
> >http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com/ilenawebpages.html
> > For the Truth and the Facts surrounding Ilena Rosenthal and her
> > foundation, please visit:
> >http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
> I ran Ilena Rosenthal's name through a bunch of databases. I also
> called the DRE. Ilena Rosenthal has a license through the DRE, as do
> you, Myrl Jeffcoat. Have you done anything Myrl or Ilena that would
> violate the code ethics of the licenses you have?? I'm kind of
> curious to find out if something I read a while back has any truth
> attached to it. I have read where fans of celebrities have started
> websites using the celebrities names in the website address, and the
> celebrities have successfully been able to have those websites removed
> because the fan was using a name other than their own in the web
> address, and without permission.
------------------------------------
Follow that thread. You will see Debbee Adams--Snifffthis has nuked her
posts.
However, she evidently cannot nuke her profile.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/948ed26adae3aaa5
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant
From: Coleah <col...@pacifier.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:56:27 -0700
Local: Tues, Oct 23 2007 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA
DEBBEE SAID: "Apparently you have nothing better to do, some of us
work for a living. Some of us have real lives."
>From the mouth of (2nd from left) blonde:
Debbee A Adams (54)
San Carlos, CA and Milton, WA
http://www.louielouie.net/pix-2007/loufest2007/ep-da-jeff-rfs.jpg
I am very happily RETIRED from working.
But, thank you for your 'unusual concern' about how I spend MY time.
You wouldn't have been 'baiting' to learn who my 'employer' was, so
you could complain about me, were you?????? Chortle, chortle,
chortle.
[Apparently DEBBEE has nothing better to do (while she's 'working' so
hard for a living) than to search the internet looking for some kind
of 'dirt' on people. The best she could do with me was find a
reference to a store I previously owned.]
Is that YOUR 'real life', DEBBEE?
Certainly writing for little known rag called 60's Beat can't be all
you do to pay the rent.
>From a few previous poster's mentioning something about DEBBEE and a
lawsuit....I got the impression DEBBEE had sued Mark Lindsey of Paul
Revere and the Raiders. Alas it appears was the other way around.
Funny how she denied any knowledge of it however.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/536569d0bf1cfed9
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant
From: Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:06:53 -0000
Local: Tues, Oct 23 2007 8:06 pm
Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA
On Oct 23, 2:33 pm, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Oct 23, 9:56 am, Coleah <col...@pacifier.com> wrote:
> I know nothing of what you are speaking about.
> I'm not the editor of any publication.
> I do not live in Milton, WA or San Carlos, CA
> There goes your credibility, Coleah right down the tube.
> Deb Adams is not even my real name.
So then Debbee - when you contacted corporate GMAC in the last couple
of days, to complain about me, you are saying you lied about your
name???
---------------------------------------
On Oct 23, 4:43 pm, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Oct 23, 3:50 pm, Coleah <col...@pacifier.com> wrote:
> It is *not your business*, Miss Busy Body, of *who* I am, *what* I do
> for a living, and *where* I live. Nor is *your business* what I am
> even
> doing here. This is the Usenet, and ANYONE can post here, for any
> reason. Got it? Good. Mind your own business, and I'll mind mine.
Wow - Debbee is calling people "Miss Busy Body" - and stating it isn't
our business to know *who" she is, *what" she does for a living, or
*where* she lives. Yet, she sees fit to get into other people's
business, calling their employers, etc. and giving fictious and
defamatory information.
What a piece of work you are Debbee!
I can understand why you would wish to come out from under a rock to
do your business, and then slither right back under again, once you've
done your reptilian handiwork!
You appear to be just another "free speech" hypocrite.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/cd77c80fc236e14b
Jun 13, 2008
I've caught Jan lying. She is dellusional, accusing me of going to
California to stalk Ilena. Then she falsely accused me of "joining the
gang."
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/5022a2965c28740d
Jun 14, 2008
I was forwarded letters that allegedly you wrote and Ilena wrote
stating I was going to go to California and stalk Ilena.
And along the same lines that "I had joined the gang."
And that you didn't trust me.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/c95b48524422f3cb
Jun 16, 2008
No thanks Myrl. She wasn't smart enough to figure out that they were
two Jan Drews.
One being herself, and one being a phony one that infiltrated the
alternative health care discussion group that we both belonged to.
Same scenerio as with Ilena. The phony one infiltrated our
alternative health care discussion group, which means the only way
that that transpired was due to the computer hacking that was and
