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> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:3nLkk.16828$uE5.6351@flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com...

> Why the diatribe?

> We have enough facts and fake facts.

> "markprob...@lumbercartel.com" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c9774dc0-47b7-450d-bc41-755554175588@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 29, 5:58 pm, "vernono" <vern...@there.com> wrote:

> Fact. I looked it up.

> LOL!! And of course, Mark S Probert, Merrick, NY- would not lie.

> Like this..................

> Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant From: aloysio...@aol.com
> (AloysiousX) Date: 07 Jan 2004 18:59:31 GMT Local: Wed, Jan 7 2004 2:59 pm
> Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution

> I have no children, Sistah Jan.

> As Salaam Aleikum, my Sistah!

> AloysiousX Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant From: aloysio...@aol.com
> (AloysiousX) Date: 06 Jan 2004 22:31:39 GMT Local: Tues, Jan 6 2004 6:31
> pm Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution

> You know something, Sistah Ilena, I'm not Mark Probert, but it's pretty
> clear who the coward is.

> Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant From: aloysio...@aol.com
> (AloysiousX) Date: 07 Jan 2004 18:57:50 GMT Local: Wed, Jan 7 2004 2:57 pm
> Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution

> Sistah Jan, I'd never heard of you until you made your post in the breast
> implant group, much in the same way I'd never heard of Mark Probert until
> Sistah Ilena mentioned him.

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> Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant Date: 06 Jan 2004 17:54:38 GMT
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> Or this...................

> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/f06b48baa0...

> From: "M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t-July 23, 2004" <M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t
> 07-23...@lymbercartel.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:35:11 GMT Local: Fri,
> Jul 23 2004 10:35 am Subject: Re: Asbestos Deaths Up

> The simple fact is that there is no cover-up regarding asbestos. In the
> 1980's, under AHERA, schools nationwide removed tons of it. Construction
> companies were forced to perform abatement before renovations or
> demolition. There is no doubt that there are very sick people with
> asbestosis and mesothelioma who were exposed to asbestos. I meet several
> of them every month and can usually find some documentation of their
> possible exposure so they can recevie WC benefits.

> Backj in the 1950's and 1960's, there was no idea that asbestos exposure
> could be so dangerous. During WWII boat builders at the Navy Yards were
> routinely exposed to it, brought the dust home, and exposed their
> families. No one knew.

> When I was in elementary school, I received a kit from a group in Canada,
> where asbestos was mined, called "Asbestos-The Magic Mineral." I brought
> it to school for a science project. No one knew.

> Once the dangers became known, precautions were put in place, and,
> eventually, abatement was begun. There is far less asbestos in our
> environment to day, and HULDA CLARK HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!

> Anyone claiming that there was a cover-up is an liar.

> http://www.asbestosnews.com/news/asbestos-exposure.html

> Asbestos Exposure News "Asbestos cover-up" July 16, 2004 According to an
> Environmental Protection Agency memo, after the World Trade Center
> collapse, city and federal officials concealed data showing lower
> Manhattan air had more than double the level of asbestos considered safe
> for humans. Despite this, the public was told it was safe to return
> downtown. City tests were so overloaded September 13 with asbestos in the
> air that the lab could not conclude asbestos levels. The city never
> released the asbestos information to the public, and information on it's
> Website had 17 instances of understated or blank data. For more
> information on asbestos exposure, please contact us. More Asbestos Law
> News.... =============
> http://xtramsn.co.nz/business/0,,5008-4090727,00.html Execs Charged Over
> Asbestos Cover-Up 08/02/2005 04:50 PM - Reuters - James Vicini

> WR Grace & Co and seven current or former executives were charged on
> Monday with conspiring to endanger residents in Libby, Montana, and
> concealing the health risks from asbestos-contaminated vermiculite, the US
> Justice Department said.

> According to the indictment returned by a federal grand jury in Montana,
> Grace spread the asbestos throughout the community to such locations as
> commercial buildings and schools, including an outdoor ice skating rink,
> school running tracks and baseball fields.

> The 10-count indictment charges the defendants with conspiracy, clean-air
> violations, wire fraud and obstruction of justice involving
> asbestos-related diseases linked to its former vermiculite mining and
> processing operations.

> Grace, named in all 10 counts, could face fines of hundreds of millions of
> dollars, a Justice Department official said.

> Under the law, a company can be fined for up to twice the gain for
> activities associated with its criminal conduct, the official said. The
> indictment said Grace reaped more than US$140 million in profits from
> asbestos-contaminated vermiculite.

> Grace said in a statement that it "categorically denies any criminal
> wrongdoing," and that it was supporting the long-term health care of the
> citizens of Libby.

> A specialty chemicals company currently in bankruptcy proceedings, Grace
> operated the vermiculite mine from 1963 to 1990, and it continued
> processing operations until 1992.

> The vermiculite, with uses that included insulation, was contaminated with
> a form of asbestos known as tremolite.

> According to the indictment, the conspiracy began in 1976 and continued
> until 2002. The conspirators knowingly released asbestos into the air,
> placing at risk families of Grace employees and area residents.

> "It was a purpose of the conspiracy to increase profits and avoid
> liability by misleading the government and preventing the government from
> using its authorities to protect against risks to human health and the
> environment," the indictment said.

> About 1,200 Libby residents so far have been identified as having
> asbestos-related lung abnormalities as a result of being exposed to the
> asbestos from the mine, the 49-page indictment stated.

> Libby's population totals about 8,000 people. The indictment said 70
> percent of those with the abnormalities did not work in the mine.

> The indictment said Libby's death rate from asbestosis, a scarring of the
> lungs, is 40 to 80 times higher than expected when compared to rates for
> Montana and the United States.

> It said the lung cancer rate is about 30 percent higher for the town
> compared with rates in the state and the United States.

> Named in the indictment were Alan Stringer, a manager at the Libby Mine;
> Henry Eschenbach, a health and safety expert at WR Grace's Industrial
> Chemicals Group (ICG); and Jack Wolter a vice-president of WR Grace's
> Construction Products Division (CPD).

> Also named were William McCaig a maintenance superintendent and operations
> manager at the mine; Robert Bettacchi, a president of the CPD unit; Mario
> Favorito, legal counsel to WR Grace's ICG unit and Robert Walsh, with
> positions that included executive vice president of Grace Specialty
> Chemicals.

> Eschenbach declined to comment. Efforts to reach the other defendants were
> not immediately successful.

> Grace and 61 of its US subsidiaries and affiliates, filed for bankruptcy
> in April, 2001, under the weight of asbestos lawsuits. Members of the US
> Senate are working on a trust fund to compensate asbestos victims and end
> injury lawsuits.

> http://www.kaimin.org/viewarticle.php?id=3934 Mining company guilty of
> asbestos cover-up in Libby Tristan Scott Montana Kaimin Top employees of
> W.R. Grace & Co. knew its Montana mine was releasing dangerous
> cancer-causing asbestos into the air and even conspired to hide the known
> hazards from workers and area residents, according to a federal grand jury
> indictment released Monday. The now-closed vermiculite mine in Libby, a
> small northwest Montana town where Grace operated for nearly 30 years, has
> been tied to nearly 200 deaths and infecting many more people with the
> lung disease asbestosis. Montana U.S. Attorney Bill Mercer announced the
> indictment Monday at the Missoula County courthouse. Seven of the
> company's previous and existing employees were indicted on 10 counts for
> conspiracy, violating the federal Clean Air Act, wire fraud and
> obstructing justice. The decision is being hailed by environmentalists as
> one of the most important environmental indictments in history. Grace and
> its employees are charged with releasing tremolite asbestos - a carcinogen
> found in vermiculite ore - into the air and hindering federal
> investigations, including a 1999 inspection conducted by the Environmental
> Protection Agency, which former manager Alan Stringer tried to inhibit by
> giving false and misleading information he knew was inaccurate. According
> to the 49-page indictment, Grace knew of employee health problems as early
> as 1976, and was privy to studies and reports on the dangers of asbestos
> vermiculite. Exposure to asbestos can lead to lung cancer and asbestosis -
> a disease that causes scarring of the lung. Knowing the dangers of its
> product, company officials supplied vermiculite to a junior high school
> for use on its running track and lied about it during the EPA's
> investigation, according to the indictment. The document also cites
> instances in which the company lied about having provided vermiculite
> insulation to locals for their homes, as well as for use at a nearby ice
> rink. The EPA has since declared the mine a Superfund site, and has spent
> more than $55 million on cleanup. A dispute over a federal judge's 2003
> ruling that Grace must repay the EPA for that amount is ongoing. The
> company was not available for comment Monday. Stringer faces up to 70
> years in prison, while Jack Wolter, a former executive, and Robert
> Bettacchi, a senior vice president, each face maximum prison terms of 55
> years. The company could face a fine of up to $280 million, twice the
> amount of mining profits earned during its years of operation. News of
> asbestos contamination in Libby first surfaced in 1999 after national
> reports linked the mine's pollution to the deaths and illnesses of nearby
> residents. Grace filed for bankruptcy in 2001 after the company was
> bombarded with asbestos-related lawsuits. Vermiculite from the Libby mine
> was frequently used as attic insulation and as an ingredient in
> fireproofing products, potting soils and fertilizers. While many former
> employees have developed asbestosis as a result of their direct exposure
> to the mine, their family members also suffer, since the tiny asbestos
> fibers were brought home on workers' clothing.
> http://landofpuregold.com/truth202.htm 9/11 Memo Reveals Asbestos
> 'Cover-Up' By Sam Smith, July 16, 2004

> An Environmental Protection Agency memo claims city and federal officials
> concealed data that showed lower Manhattan air was clouded with asbestos
> after the World Trade Center collapse.

> And officials sat on the alarming information even as they told the public
> it was safe to return downtown, the internal memo says. Testing by the
> city Department of Environmental Protection showed the air downtown had
> more than double the level of asbestos considered safe for humans, claimed
> federal EPA environmental scientist Cate Jenkins, who supplied the memo to
> The Post.

> The data, which Jenkins says she culled from state records, appear
> damning. On the day after the attack, the memo claims, city test results
> from the corner of Centre and Chambers streets and from the corner of
> Spruce and Gold streets showed asbestos concentration at about twice the
> level considered safe by the EPA. The city did not release this
> information to the public, Jenkins says.

> The next day, Sept. 13, city tests were "overloaded" with asbestos in the
> air ­ so much that the lab could not conclude precise amounts ­ along
> Church Street. Again, the information was withheld, the memo claims.

> When the city published the test results for the weeks following 9/11 on
> its Web site in February 2002, there were 17 instances where the data was
> either understated or left blank, Jenkins asserts in her report.

> "New York City could wiggle out of the [claim of] concealment, because
> they weren't making any explicit statements about data at the time,"
> Jenkins told The Post. "But the EPA can't wiggle out of this. They said
> the air was safe at the same time they were coordinating data with the
> city."

> To drive her point home, Jenkins compares statements made by the EPA on
> the same day test data was showing dangerous levels of asbestos. On Sept.
> 18, then-EPA administrator Christie Whitman said the public in lower
> Manhattan was not being exposed to "excessive levels of asbestos."

> That same day, city testing data, some of which was later made public,
> showed asbestos levels 50 percent higher and more above what her agency
> considers safe, the memo states.

> http://www.google.com

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> Steve