Subject: Re: Mark S Probert, Merrick, NY-Proven liar AGAIN-- Sir Artie impersonated a doctor?
Author: Jan Drew
Date: 1 Aug
Ref:


"markprobert@lumbercartel.com" <mark.probert@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:c9774dc0-47b7-450d-bc41-755554175588@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 29, 5:58 pm, "vernono" <vern...@there.com> wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c188da29-a09a-4c75-94c4-84cdf38fbc4f@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 29, 9:11 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
>
> <scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> > Well stated, and it is supported by facts!
>
> "Facts" is not a synonym for *idle conjecture*, but, you are too
> stupid to know that.
>
> Is that a fact or idle conjecture?

Fact. I looked it up.

LOL!! And of course, Mark S Probert, Merrick, NY- would not lie.

Like this..................

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From: aloysio...@aol.com (AloysiousX)
Date: 07 Jan 2004 18:59:31 GMT
Local: Wed, Jan 7 2004 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution

I have no children, Sistah Jan.

As Salaam Aleikum, my Sistah!

AloysiousX
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From: aloysio...@aol.com (AloysiousX)
Date: 06 Jan 2004 22:31:39 GMT
Local: Tues, Jan 6 2004 6:31 pm
Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution

You know something, Sistah Ilena, I'm not Mark Probert, but it's pretty
clear
who the coward is.

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From: aloysio...@aol.com (AloysiousX)
Date: 07 Jan 2004 18:57:50 GMT
Local: Wed, Jan 7 2004 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution

Sistah Jan, I'd never heard of you until you made your post in the breast
implant group, much in the same way I'd never heard of Mark Probert until
Sistah Ilena mentioned him.


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> Subj: Is There Some Reason...> Date: 2/12/2004 2:18:07 PM Pacific Standard
> Time> From: AloysiousX> To: JDrew63929>>> Is there some reason why you
> won't let me ask you a few questions, Jan? > I'm> really curious about
> your involvement with Ilena Rosenthal.>>> But I guess my most basic
> question is whether or not you are in California> (like I am), or over in
> Indiana, like your profile says.>>> I had thought you were out west, but I
> guess not.>>> As Salaam Aleikum!>>> Aloysious>
> Mark Probert markprobert1...@hotmail.com AloysiousX

Or this...................

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/f06b48baa0e38b71

From: "M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t-July 23, 2004" <M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t
07-23...@lymbercartel.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:35:11 GMT
Local: Fri, Jul 23 2004 10:35 am
Subject: Re: Asbestos Deaths Up



The simple fact is that there is no cover-up regarding asbestos. In the
1980's, under AHERA, schools nationwide removed tons of it. Construction
companies were forced to perform abatement before renovations or demolition.
There is no doubt that there are very sick people with asbestosis and
mesothelioma who were exposed to asbestos. I meet several of them every
month and can usually find some documentation of their possible exposure so
they can recevie WC benefits.

Backj in the 1950's and 1960's, there was no idea that asbestos exposure
could be so dangerous. During WWII boat builders at the Navy Yards were
routinely exposed to it, brought the dust home, and exposed their families.
No one knew.

When I was in elementary school, I received a kit from a group in Canada,
where asbestos was mined, called "Asbestos-The Magic Mineral." I brought it
to school for a science project. No one knew.

Once the dangers became known, precautions were put in place, and,
eventually, abatement was begun. There is far less asbestos in our
environment to day, and HULDA CLARK HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!

Anyone claiming that there was a cover-up is an liar.


http://www.asbestosnews.com/news/asbestos-exposure.html

Asbestos Exposure News
"Asbestos cover-up"
July 16, 2004
According to an Environmental Protection Agency memo, after the World Trade
Center collapse, city and federal officials concealed data showing lower
Manhattan air had more than double the level of asbestos considered safe for
humans. Despite this, the public was told it was safe to return downtown.
City tests were so overloaded September 13 with asbestos in the air that the
lab could not conclude asbestos levels. The city never released the asbestos
information to the public, and information on it's Website had 17 instances
of understated or blank data.
For more information on asbestos exposure, please contact us.
More Asbestos Law News....
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http://xtramsn.co.nz/business/0,,5008-4090727,00.html
Execs Charged Over Asbestos Cover-Up
08/02/2005 04:50 PM - Reuters - James Vicini

WR Grace & Co and seven current or former executives were charged on Monday
with conspiring to endanger residents in Libby, Montana, and concealing the
health risks from asbestos-contaminated vermiculite, the US Justice
Department said.

According to the indictment returned by a federal grand jury in Montana,
Grace spread the asbestos throughout the community to such locations as
commercial buildings and schools, including an outdoor ice skating rink,
school running tracks and baseball fields.

The 10-count indictment charges the defendants with conspiracy, clean-air
violations, wire fraud and obstruction of justice involving asbestos-related
diseases linked to its former vermiculite mining and processing operations.

Grace, named in all 10 counts, could face fines of hundreds of millions of
dollars, a Justice Department official said.

Under the law, a company can be fined for up to twice the gain for
activities associated with its criminal conduct, the official said. The
indictment said Grace reaped more than US$140 million in profits from
asbestos-contaminated vermiculite.

Grace said in a statement that it "categorically denies any criminal
wrongdoing," and that it was supporting the long-term health care of the
citizens of Libby.

A specialty chemicals company currently in bankruptcy proceedings, Grace
operated the vermiculite mine from 1963 to 1990, and it continued processing
operations until 1992.

The vermiculite, with uses that included insulation, was contaminated with a
form of asbestos known as tremolite.

According to the indictment, the conspiracy began in 1976 and continued
until 2002. The conspirators knowingly released asbestos into the air,
placing at risk families of Grace employees and area residents.

"It was a purpose of the conspiracy to increase profits and avoid liability
by misleading the government and preventing the government from using its
authorities to protect against risks to human health and the environment,"
the indictment said.

About 1,200 Libby residents so far have been identified as having
asbestos-related lung abnormalities as a result of being exposed to the
asbestos from the mine, the 49-page indictment stated.

Libby's population totals about 8,000 people. The indictment said 70 percent
of those with the abnormalities did not work in the mine.

The indictment said Libby's death rate from asbestosis, a scarring of the
lungs, is 40 to 80 times higher than expected when compared to rates for
Montana and the United States.

It said the lung cancer rate is about 30 percent higher for the town
compared with rates in the state and the United States.

Named in the indictment were Alan Stringer, a manager at the Libby Mine;
Henry Eschenbach, a health and safety expert at WR Grace's Industrial
Chemicals Group (ICG); and Jack Wolter a vice-president of WR Grace's
Construction Products Division (CPD).

Also named were William McCaig a maintenance superintendent and operations
manager at the mine; Robert Bettacchi, a president of the CPD unit; Mario
Favorito, legal counsel to WR Grace's ICG unit and Robert Walsh, with
positions that included executive vice president of Grace Specialty
Chemicals.

Eschenbach declined to comment. Efforts to reach the other defendants were
not immediately successful.

Grace and 61 of its US subsidiaries and affiliates, filed for bankruptcy in
April, 2001, under the weight of asbestos lawsuits. Members of the US Senate
are working on a trust fund to compensate asbestos victims and end injury
lawsuits.




http://www.kaimin.org/viewarticle.php?id=3934
Mining company guilty of asbestos cover-up in Libby
Tristan Scott
Montana Kaimin
Top employees of W.R. Grace & Co. knew its Montana mine was releasing
dangerous cancer-causing asbestos into the air and even conspired to hide
the known hazards from workers and area residents, according to a federal
grand jury indictment released Monday.
The now-closed vermiculite mine in Libby, a small northwest Montana town
where Grace operated for nearly 30 years, has been tied to nearly 200 deaths
and infecting many more people with the lung disease asbestosis.
Montana U.S. Attorney Bill Mercer announced the indictment Monday at the
Missoula County courthouse.
Seven of the company's previous and existing employees were indicted on 10
counts for conspiracy, violating the federal Clean Air Act, wire fraud and
obstructing justice.
The decision is being hailed by environmentalists as one of the most
important environmental indictments in history.
Grace and its employees are charged with releasing tremolite asbestos - a
carcinogen found in vermiculite ore - into the air and hindering federal
investigations, including a 1999 inspection conducted by the Environmental
Protection Agency, which former manager Alan Stringer tried to inhibit by
giving false and misleading information he knew was inaccurate.
According to the 49-page indictment, Grace knew of employee health problems
as early as 1976, and was privy to studies and reports on the dangers of
asbestos vermiculite.
Exposure to asbestos can lead to lung cancer and asbestosis - a disease that
causes scarring of the lung.
Knowing the dangers of its product, company officials supplied vermiculite
to a junior high school for use on its running track and lied about it
during the EPA's investigation, according to the indictment. The document
also cites instances in which the company lied about having provided
vermiculite insulation to locals for their homes, as well as for use at a
nearby ice rink.
The EPA has since declared the mine a Superfund site, and has spent more
than $55 million on cleanup.
A dispute over a federal judge's 2003 ruling that Grace must repay the EPA
for that amount is ongoing.
The company was not available for comment Monday.
Stringer faces up to 70 years in prison, while Jack Wolter, a former
executive, and Robert Bettacchi, a senior vice president, each face maximum
prison terms of 55 years.
The company could face a fine of up to $280 million, twice the amount of
mining profits earned during its years of operation.
News of asbestos contamination in Libby first surfaced in 1999 after
national reports linked the mine's pollution to the deaths and illnesses of
nearby residents.
Grace filed for bankruptcy in 2001 after the company was bombarded with
asbestos-related lawsuits.
Vermiculite from the Libby mine was frequently used as attic insulation and
as an ingredient in fireproofing products, potting soils and fertilizers.
While many former employees have developed asbestosis as a result of their
direct exposure to the mine, their family members also suffer, since the
tiny asbestos fibers were brought home on workers' clothing.
http://landofpuregold.com/truth202.htm
9/11 Memo Reveals Asbestos 'Cover-Up'
By Sam Smith, July 16, 2004

An Environmental Protection Agency memo claims city and federal officials
concealed data that showed lower Manhattan air was clouded with asbestos
after the World Trade Center collapse.

And officials sat on the alarming information even as they told the public
it was safe to return downtown, the internal memo says. Testing by the city
Department of Environmental Protection showed the air downtown had more than
double the level of asbestos considered safe for humans, claimed federal EPA
environmental scientist Cate Jenkins, who supplied the memo to The Post.

The data, which Jenkins says she culled from state records, appear damning.
On the day after the attack, the memo claims, city test results from the
corner of Centre and Chambers streets and from the corner of Spruce and Gold
streets showed asbestos concentration at about twice the level considered
safe by the EPA.
The city did not release this information to the public, Jenkins says.

The next day, Sept. 13, city tests were "overloaded" with asbestos in the
air ­ so much that the lab could not conclude precise amounts ­ along Church
Street.
Again, the information was withheld, the memo claims.

When the city published the test results for the weeks following 9/11 on its
Web site in February 2002, there were 17 instances where the data was either
understated or left blank, Jenkins asserts in her report.

"New York City could wiggle out of the [claim of] concealment, because they
weren't making any explicit statements about data at the time," Jenkins told
The Post. "But the EPA can't wiggle out of this. They said the air was safe
at the same time they were coordinating data with the city."

To drive her point home, Jenkins compares statements made by the EPA on the
same day test data was showing dangerous levels of asbestos. On Sept. 18,
then-EPA administrator Christie Whitman said the public in lower Manhattan
was not being exposed to "excessive levels of asbestos."

That same day, city testing data, some of which was later made public,
showed asbestos levels 50 percent higher and more above what her agency
considers safe, the memo states.

http://www.google.com

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Sir Artie impersonated a doctor?
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Proby impersonated a human? - Case dismissed!
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Public Notice to Janet Drew
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9 Aug|  |  |              |     |                    |        |     |  |     |- Jan Drew
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Public Notice
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30 Aug|  |  |              |     |                    |        |     |  |     |     |     \ Annie
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3 Sep|  |  |              |     |                    |        |     |  |     |        |  |     \ Peter Bowditch
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4 Sep|  |  |              |     |                    |        |     |  |     |        |  |        |     |- Mark Thorson
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