Subject: Re: Study links vaccine to autism
Author: Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
Date: 1 Jul
Ref:

On Jun 29, 4:08 pm, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 29, 4:23 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
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> > On Jun 28, 5:40 pm, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jun 28, 12:18 pm, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
>
> > > <scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> > > > I almost feel sorry for Pro-butt, VD Sessions, porno persons, Ann and
> > > > the other crackpots who desperately feel the need to post their
> > > > drivel. Nobody, except their own little cult, even reads and responds
> > > > to their ratings. From time to time I stop by and see if they have
> > > > managed to fool anybody else, but it seems like they have zero
> > > > credibility left, so that is no longer a concern!!
>
> > > > CitizenJimseracwrote:
> > > > > On Jun 27, 9:17�am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
> > > > > <scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Jun 24, 3:24 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> > > > > > > A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
> > > > > > > to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
> > > > > > > government's previous claims to the contrary.
>
> > > > > > > An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
> > > > > > > of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
> > > > > > > mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
> > > > > > > alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
> > > > > > > other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
> > > > > > > only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
> > > > > > > much as 35 percent.
>
> > > > > > > Using the government's own databases, independent
> > > > > > > researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
> > > > > > > including autism, before and after removal of
> > > > > > > mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
> > > > > > > B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
> > > > > > > the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
> > > > > > > (VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
> > > > > > > Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
> > > > > > > Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
> > > > > > > Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."
>
> > > > > > > The numbers from California show that reported autism
> > > > > > > rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
> > > > > > > continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
> > > > > > > than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
> > > > > > > Geiers report that the number actually went down to
> > > > > > > only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
> > > > > > > decrease from the projections of 35 percent.
>
> > > > > > > This analysis directly contradicts 2004
> > > > > > > recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
> > > > > > > examined vaccine safety data from the National
> > > > > > > Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
> > > > > > > willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
> > > > > > > relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
> > > > > > > soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
> > > > > > > were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
> > > > > > > the evidence favored rejection of a causal
> > > > > > > relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
> > > > > > > a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
> > > > > > > that no further studies should be conducted to
> > > > > > > evaluate it."
>
> > > > > > > As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
> > > > > > > schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
> > > > > > > mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
> > > > > > > the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
> > > > > > > toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
> > > > > > > Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
> > > > > > > concentrations.
>
> > > > > > > The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
> > > > > > > as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
> > > > > > > reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
> > > > > > > underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
> > > > > > > state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
> > > > > > > administered there after it documented a 700-fold
> > > > > > > increase in that state alone. California followed
> > > > > > > suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.
>
> > > > > > > Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
> > > > > > > vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
> > > > > > > recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
> > > > > > > children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
> > > > > > > which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
> > > > > > > of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
> > > > > > > the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
> > > > > > > injected with mercury-containing vaccines.
>
> > > > > > > The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
> > > > > > > children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
> > > > > > > 187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.
>
> > > > > > > The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
> > > > > > > concern, as it is still added to some of the most
> > > > > > > commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.
>
> > > > > > > Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
> > > > > > > routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to
> > > > > > > U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria
> > > > > > > and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004,
> > > > > > > the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences
> > > > > > > (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove
> > > > > > > thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the
> > > > > > > safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant
> > > > > > > importance."
> > > > > > > Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in
> > > > > > > the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain
> > > > > > > thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to
> > > > > > > children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for
> > > > > > > adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.
>
> > > > > > This is an open and shut case, thank you for posting this. �Nobody can
> > > > > > credibly question these studies, and nobody that has any integrity
> > > > > > will. Our pro-human side have discredited the myth of ADD, ADHD and
> > > > > > have demonstrably proven that autism is directly related to vaccines.
> > > > > > But much more needs to be done, and we will do it.
>
> > > > > > Almost all the pro-med posters have gone from these newsgroups, except
> > > > > > the most extreme ones, and nobody takes them seriously. �I almost miss
> > > > > > the nut-cases like Pro-Bert and kooky Ann... I said ALMOST!!!!
>
> > > > > Thank goodness there are people out there who are aware
> > > > > of the insults, misdirections and inexhaustible deceptions
> > > > > of the gang of four INCLUDING Merc ProBERT.
>
> > > > > Since I came to this newsgroup amidst insults
> > > > > attacks and other impedimentia from the "gang",
> > > > > after daring to make some posts that there
> > > > > MIGHT, I repeat might be some scientific
> > > > > support for the efficacy of Homeopathy,
> > > > > I resolved to keep posting links and information
> > > > > that indicate viable alternatives to standard medicine
> > > > > as well as links and information that must
> > > > > seriously call into question the unfortunate
> > > > > alliance between commercial interests
> > > > > and some areas of medical science.
>
> > > > > The blind and total acceptance of the efficacy
> > > > > of vaccinations is one of the things
> > > > > I have begun to challenge and I am
> > > > > very pleased that many young mothers,
> > > > > as well as others of all age groups
> > > > > and socio-economic strata, no longer
> > > > > accept the endless propaganda and
> > > > > media fear mongering which accompanies
> > > > > yet MORE exhortations to get vaccinated.
>
> > > > > Evidence of the rather serious correlations between rising
> > > > > autism rates and other long term
> > > > > deleterious consequences of vaccinations
> > > > > have been met with the most hysterical
> > > > > innuendo and obstinacy, coupled with the
> > > > > usual attacks, misdirections and mis-statements
> > > > > of the anti-alternative medicine puppets
> > > > > who I have given the nickname the "aunties".
>
> > > > > I shall continue posting despite the fact that
> > > > > NEARLY EVERY thread I attempt to post
> > > > > or start on an alternative medicine subject
> > > > > is either subverted, misdirected or otherwise
> > > > > diverted into directions unrelated to the topic
> > > > > of the original posting.
>
> > > > > Many Thanks
> > > > > CitizenJimserac
>
> > > Good nicknames!
>
> > they sure beat yours, Dumbass, andfArties.
>
> Ha! your jealously is showing!
> NOBODY praises your nicknames and insults.
>
> Citizen Jimserac

That's our Proby, He simply has NO shame, and no brains. Trying to
reason with him or even attempting to have an intelligent discussion
with Proby or his cult is totally futile. He always falls to the
lowest denominator. Not only has his group suffered many defections,
but nobody in their right mind will listen to their screeds anymore.


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