Subject: Re: Study links vaccine to autism
Author: Citizen Jimserac
Date: 29 Jun
Ref:

On Jun 29, 4:23 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 28, 5:40 pm, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 28, 12:18 pm, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
>
> > <scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> > > I almost feel sorry for Pro-butt, VD Sessions, porno persons, Ann and
> > > the other crackpots who desperately feel the need to post their
> > > drivel. Nobody, except their own little cult, even reads and responds
> > > to their ratings. From time to time I stop by and see if they have
> > > managed to fool anybody else, but it seems like they have zero
> > > credibility left, so that is no longer a concern!!
>
> > > CitizenJimseracwrote:
> > > > On Jun 27, 9:17�am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
> > > > <scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Jun 24, 3:24 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> > > > > > A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
> > > > > > to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
> > > > > > government's previous claims to the contrary.
>
> > > > > > An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
> > > > > > of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
> > > > > > mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
> > > > > > alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
> > > > > > other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
> > > > > > only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
> > > > > > much as 35 percent.
>
> > > > > > Using the government's own databases, independent
> > > > > > researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
> > > > > > including autism, before and after removal of
> > > > > > mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
> > > > > > B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
> > > > > > the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
> > > > > > (VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
> > > > > > Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
> > > > > > Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
> > > > > > Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."
>
> > > > > > The numbers from California show that reported autism
> > > > > > rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
> > > > > > continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
> > > > > > than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
> > > > > > Geiers report that the number actually went down to
> > > > > > only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
> > > > > > decrease from the projections of 35 percent.
>
> > > > > > This analysis directly contradicts 2004
> > > > > > recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
> > > > > > examined vaccine safety data from the National
> > > > > > Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
> > > > > > willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
> > > > > > relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
> > > > > > soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
> > > > > > were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
> > > > > > the evidence favored rejection of a causal
> > > > > > relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
> > > > > > a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
> > > > > > that no further studies should be conducted to
> > > > > > evaluate it."
>
> > > > > > As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
> > > > > > schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
> > > > > > mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
> > > > > > the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
> > > > > > toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
> > > > > > Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
> > > > > > concentrations.
>
> > > > > > The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
> > > > > > as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
> > > > > > reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
> > > > > > underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
> > > > > > state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
> > > > > > administered there after it documented a 700-fold
> > > > > > increase in that state alone. California followed
> > > > > > suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.
>
> > > > > > Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
> > > > > > vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
> > > > > > recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
> > > > > > children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
> > > > > > which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
> > > > > > of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
> > > > > > the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
> > > > > > injected with mercury-containing vaccines.
>
> > > > > > The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
> > > > > > children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
> > > > > > 187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.
>
> > > > > > The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
> > > > > > concern, as it is still added to some of the most
> > > > > > commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.
>
> > > > > > Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
> > > > > > routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to
> > > > > > U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria
> > > > > > and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004,
> > > > > > the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences
> > > > > > (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove
> > > > > > thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the
> > > > > > safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant
> > > > > > importance."
> > > > > > Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in
> > > > > > the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain
> > > > > > thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to
> > > > > > children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for
> > > > > > adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.
>
> > > > > This is an open and shut case, thank you for posting this. �Nobody can
> > > > > credibly question these studies, and nobody that has any integrity
> > > > > will. Our pro-human side have discredited the myth of ADD, ADHD and
> > > > > have demonstrably proven that autism is directly related to vaccines.
> > > > > But much more needs to be done, and we will do it.
>
> > > > > Almost all the pro-med posters have gone from these newsgroups, except
> > > > > the most extreme ones, and nobody takes them seriously. �I almost miss
> > > > > the nut-cases like Pro-Bert and kooky Ann... I said ALMOST!!!!
>
> > > > Thank goodness there are people out there who are aware
> > > > of the insults, misdirections and inexhaustible deceptions
> > > > of the gang of four INCLUDING Merc ProBERT.
>
> > > > Since I came to this newsgroup amidst insults
> > > > attacks and other impedimentia from the "gang",
> > > > after daring to make some posts that there
> > > > MIGHT, I repeat might be some scientific
> > > > support for the efficacy of Homeopathy,
> > > > I resolved to keep posting links and information
> > > > that indicate viable alternatives to standard medicine
> > > > as well as links and information that must
> > > > seriously call into question the unfortunate
> > > > alliance between commercial interests
> > > > and some areas of medical science.
>
> > > > The blind and total acceptance of the efficacy
> > > > of vaccinations is one of the things
> > > > I have begun to challenge and I am
> > > > very pleased that many young mothers,
> > > > as well as others of all age groups
> > > > and socio-economic strata, no longer
> > > > accept the endless propaganda and
> > > > media fear mongering which accompanies
> > > > yet MORE exhortations to get vaccinated.
>
> > > > Evidence of the rather serious correlations between rising
> > > > autism rates and other long term
> > > > deleterious consequences of vaccinations
> > > > have been met with the most hysterical
> > > > innuendo and obstinacy, coupled with the
> > > > usual attacks, misdirections and mis-statements
> > > > of the anti-alternative medicine puppets
> > > > who I have given the nickname the "aunties".
>
> > > > I shall continue posting despite the fact that
> > > > NEARLY EVERY thread I attempt to post
> > > > or start on an alternative medicine subject
> > > > is either subverted, misdirected or otherwise
> > > > diverted into directions unrelated to the topic
> > > > of the original posting.
>
> > > > Many Thanks
> > > > CitizenJimserac
>
> > Good nicknames!
>
> they sure beat yours, Dumbass, andfArties.

Ha! your jealously is showing!
NOBODY praises your nicknames and insults.

Citizen Jimserac


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